I THINK IT SHOULD BE SKIPED, IN THE "SANKALPAM ( DEVA RISHI 'PITHRU' TARPANAM KARISHYE ) THE WORDS "PITHRU" should be omitted.Likewise at the end the portion commencing with " SOMAPITHRUMAN YAMOANGIRASWAN........"also to be omitted.
Post by Kanchi Periva on Sept 22, 2013 18:22:54 GMT 5.5
Dear Members srisridhar and radha - please note that Brahma Yagnam must be performed including all segments, covering Pitru Tharpanam too as it is not meant just for father but more for the ancestors and forefathers of the clan. There are clarifications about this given earlier by Brahmasri Nannilam Rajagopala Ghanapatigal in his Vaithikasri magazine. Hence, it can very well be done.
THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.Regards.However ,a reference is kindly invited to www.scribd.com wherein it is specifically stated"As said earlier this is to be performed only by those whose father is not alive. Others toskip this section" www.scribd.com/doc/30921102/brahmayagyam Also refer to web.http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/sri-vaishnava-forum/681206-brahma-yagnam.html
Post by Kanchi Periva on Sept 23, 2013 11:14:50 GMT 5.5
Dear Sri radha - I note your point. However, this has become a bone of contention only in the recent years, as many of our people have completely forgotten brahma yagnam. We are in a pitiable situation that many of our kids remember the verses of other religious texts that are forcefully taught in their schools, but they have forgotten the basics of Sandhyavandanam and Brahma Yagnam, which must be their daily duty..
When there are questions regarding Dharma sastra, we must always take recourse to the most knowledgeable people who can quote by relevant smritis and sutras and give a final solution. Brahmasri Rajagopala Ghanapatigal is very well known for his abilities as a Dharma Sastra exponent, and has clarified this point in multiple meetings and writings with appropriate evidences. Hence, there is no need to look in to any other inconclusive or controversial materials found on the web.
The pronouncements from him are authoritative enough and may be blindly followed, unless someone has the deep knowledge to counter it (after reading all the available source material on Dharma Sastras). To my recollection, even Sri Sarma Sastrigal had clarified on similar lines earlier..
Dear Sriman, I am delighted to read your clarification and agree with your views in toto, as it is based on Dharma Sastra and confirmed by the revered exponent on Sastras. I think the doubt is finally happily resolved. I am grateful for your guidance in such bone of contention issues.Thanks & with best regards.
Last Edit: Sept 23, 2013 13:05:39 GMT 5.5 by radha
Late Sri. Somadeva Sarma, a great Vedic scholar, in his Sandhyavandhanam book, also has stated that in Brahma Yagnam, the Pithru Tharpanam should be done by all including those who have their father alive. He has also mentioned that the TharpaNam is for ancestors and Pithru Thevathaas. Unfortunately, in many places, even on Upakarma Days, some SastrigaLs say that people with father being alive, can skip Pithru TharppaNam, as it is not for them! Thanks a lot to our Administrator for clarifying the point effectively. Jaya Jaya Sankara, Hara Hara Sankara!
But at least among brahmins in Palakkad and other parts of kerala ( I mean tamil brahmins) we skip pithru tarpanam in brahmayagnam if father is alive. The vadikas in palakkad all agree on this. The publication on the subject by RS Vadhyar, thoroughly scrutinised by the great scholar Brahmashri L Anantharama Sastrigal Sir, also says that Pithru tarpanam should be skipped by those who have live fathers..
त्यजन्तु बान्धवाः सर्वे निन्दन्तु गुरवो जनाःI
तदापि परमानन्दो गोविन्दो मम जीवनंII
let all my relatives abandon me, let the great people insult me, still I am in supreme bliss since my life is GOVINDA alone.
Iकृष्णात् परं किमपि तत्वं अहं न जाने"I
Post by vasudevans on Jul 31, 2018 9:22:53 GMT 5.5
This can be done by all including those who have parents. One Sookshama is there. All are afraid that it is Tharpanam. But it is not so. No where your Gothra fore father's title etc chanted. It is for all piteous, fore fathers, jeeva raasis etc. It should be done. Vasudevan
In this context, let me add some aspects that may clarify Pitru Tharpanam. Tharpanam per se was once upon a time done by ALL including women and men. (Sita in Ramayana times)Then women were dropped out, as they acquired fifty percent of their husbands' punyam. Then only the elder son started doing it, letting go of the other male members. Then it was only if your father is no more. 100% incorrect according to Venkatarama Siddhar. Tharpanam is to be done even if your parents are alive, to one's Pitrus who sometimes can help even when Gods have constraints. Therefore Pitru Tharpanam is to be done by one and all. Incidentally my lineage is that of Palakkadu Brahmins. And I'm guilty of not performing Brahma Yagnam. May be this forum will propel me to start Brahma Yagnam. Namaskarams. Maha Periyava Thiruvadigal Saranam. Dr V Venkatesh
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